Comments on: Clan Cholla Genealogies - MacColl, McColl and McCall

By: Mairi Craven

Mairi Craven — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:29:22 +0000

A reply to Heather Butler. Johnnie MacColl who died last year in Appin was Meg MacColl’s brother-in-law not her son. I am the daughter of Una MacColl, who died in 2006, Johnnie’s sister and have been doing some family history over the past few years. Hope this helps to keep your tree up to date.

By: Frank McGonigal

Frank McGonigal — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:40:08 +0000

Hi
I found this on the UK National Archives web site..the info is very similar to what I have on my gr.gr.gr.grandfather Duncan MacCOLL except for the birth date
To get a copy of this info is going to cost me 30 pounds.
Just wondering if anyone has a copy of the info below or can relate to him.
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Certificates of service for men discharged between 1787 and 1813,
DUNCAN MACCOLL alias DUNCAN MCCOLL Born ARGYLE, Argyllshire Served in 132nd Foot Regiment; 42nd Foot Regiment; 70th Foot Regiment; West Fencibles
Discharged aged 44 after 11 years 8 months of service..
The only problem would be the age at discharge ..44..that would have him born around 1754..I estimate that my Duncan would have been born around 1775 ( His wifes birth date)..but I don’t have a birth or death record for him.
Thanks
Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada… E Mail frank017@sympatico.ca

By: heather butler

heather butler — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:32:47 +0000

AS convenor of the Friends of Appin Society, I have collected many family histories of members. I will endeavour to get all copies of newsletters on my website, but I do lead a busy life. I am very proud of my McCole heritage. I can add to the John-Sarah McColl lineage on the site. Two members of that family who lived in Appin, Meg McColl(wife on Ronnie) and her son, Johnnie McColl, have passed away in the last year, as has Lady Stewart of Appin, mother of the clan chief and Bachuil, head of the Livingston clan (a sept of the Stewarts of Appin).
I have some photocopies of the Journals and have seen them in the Mitchell. Sadie Hogg, one of our life members, stayed with HG McColl as a girl. I will tell members at our AGM in Melbourne on Sunday 29th June about this site

By: Clive Ronneberg

Clive Ronneberg — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:45:52 +0000

Would Frank McGonigal and Sally McPhee please email me at ran-black@pacific.net.au regarding their posts above. My wife, Helen McColl, ancestry tree is thought to include Duncan McColl and Catherine McKay born about 1775. Helen’s ancestry tree also contains Mary McColl who married Duncan McPhee in 1860 at Muswellbrook, NSW, Australia.

By: Rob McColl

Rob McColl — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:39:03 +0000

That’s terrific work, Jonathon, and thanks for your information on the Mitchell labrary. It will be marvellous if you can put the CC Society material up on the Web. I’ve just had contact from Heather Butler, president of the Australian branch of the Friends of Appin Soc. and she advises that they hold some of the old McColl journals.

I have corresponded with Brad and he is happy to help in whatever way he can to make the charts available. He was thinking about doing a mass email about this when time allows.

By: Arthur MacColl

Arthur MacColl — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:53:34 +0000

Are any of the Clan MacColl Society papers available on the web?
Also, what is the history of the society.

By: Jonathan McColl

Jonathan McColl — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:50:00 +0000

I have converted my set of photocopied Journals into PDFs, if only I were not missing no 25 = Vol 9’s only issue from about 1941. If anyone were willing to lend me an original or set of photocopies (including outside and inside covers) I would repay them with a CD of the complete set. I have not done anything marvellous, just made a series of 10-12MB files. They are not yet saleable and although I still wish to OCR and index them, I realise that something now is better than everything never. The magazines may be found in several libraries—I found them originally in the Cambridge University library and I’m sure the Mitchell has them too. Probably most of the copyright libraries have them.

My thoughts of what the tree coding meant (eg C29, my grandfather) were naïve at best. Perhaps SC did stand for South Carolina, but C and D certainly did not mean Canada and Somewhere Else! I have not studied the journals deeply but I cannot find any description of the tree coding except this sentence at the head of every listing of members: “The letters and numbers shown against members’ names refer to the file and page of the member’s genealogy in our records.”

Here is the list of journals, the gap being the only one missing from my set. The original volume numbering on the cover with an issue number within each volume changed at Volume 7 when it became whole numbers, and when production became disrupted by the War the numbers within each volume became very irregular. I do not believe that any issue after no 34 was published but I would be pleased to be proved wrong. I’ve also made a consolidated Table of Contents (but still missing no 25 of course) and will post it in GenForum and (if you are interested Brad) here.

No Vol-No Date Pages
1 1-1 Jan 32 1-24
2 1-2 Jul 32 25-40
3 1-3 Jan 33 41-60
4 2-1 May 33 1-20
5 2-2 Sep 33 21-40
6 2-3 Jan 34 41-60
7 3-1 May 34 1-20
8 3-2 Sep 34 21-40
9 3-3 Jan 35 41-72
10 4-1 May 35 1-20
11 4-2 Sep 35 21-44
12 4-3 Jan 36 45-60
13 5-1 May 36 1-24
14 5-2 Sep 36 25-48
15 5-3 Jan 37 49-80
16 6-1 May 37 1-20
17 6-2 Sep 37 21-40
18 6-3 Jan 38 41-72
19 7-1 May 38 1-20
20 7-2 Sep 38 21-44
21 7-3 Jan 39 45-76
22 8-1 May 39 1-20
23 8-2 Sep 39 21-32
24 8-3 Jan 40 33-44
25 9
26 10 Dec 42 1-16
27 10 Dec 43 17-32
28 10 May 45 34-56
29 11 Jan 46 1-24
30 11 Sep 46 25-44
31 11 Jan 47 45-76
32 11 May 47 77-93
33 11 Sep 48 95-117
34 12 Sep 51 1-32

No 9 includes an enrolment form, so does no 29. No 20 includes a 1935 news clipping that was tucked in the magazine that I copied. No 14 includes the tartan sample in colour, and also in colour is the bookplate in No 20 and the Hydro’s arms in No 34.

By: Jonathan McColl

Jonathan McColl — Sun, 25 May 2008 08:29:10 +0000

But perhaps the University of Glasgow? http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/manuscripts/search/resultsn.cfm?NID=3865&RID=

By: Jonathan McColl

Jonathan McColl — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:45:56 +0000

I contacted the Mitchell in Glasgow and have just received this reply from the Archivist:

“I am writing to you in response to your e-mail enquiring about the McColl Society papers that you believe were deposited at the Mitchell Library.

Unfortunately I have not found any reference to the papers within our finding aids. I have also spoken to my colleagues in the Special Collections side of our department but they have not found anything either.”

By: Sally McPhee

Sally McPhee — Tue, 13 May 2008 01:54:45 +0000

I recently looked at the Clan Cholla Journals held in the State Library of Victoria. Some, particularly early ones were missing. However from another McColl descendant I know I fit with C1 who settled at Ledmore Mull. I come in from John McPhee m Mary McColl whose father was Archibald McColl and mother Janet/Jessie MacGregor.

I will be visiting Scotland (from Aus) later this year and expect to get to the Mitchell library, but I would be interested in any information anyone has on the MacColls on Mull as well
Sally McPhee, Brisbane Australia